demonstrated there with bromine and sulfur ions, we put the given discharge worked out at Orléans on a truck, and headed it to GSI to witness the stopping of heavier ions. The installation at GSI forced us to [...] zigzag path for the ions emerging from the target, in lieu of the linear one used at Orsay. The night before everything got ready for firing, I called Richard Geller (expert for ECR ion sources) in Grenoble [...] accelerator now called ALTO. It was probably February 1987, and the very beginning of the successful ion-plasma interaction program developed at GSI. On GSI side, initially Dieter Hoffmann, Heinrich Wahl